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Doug Bates's avatar

Wikipedia says the original was written in Greek.

I think it is a Heraclitian text that has been added on to. https://ataraxiaorbust.substack.com/p/the-thunder-perfect-mind-a-heraclitean

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Krisztina Lazar's avatar

This is a really interesting take

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Jeremy Hartley's avatar

As a strange synchronicity, I read this very same poem this week, in the beautiful book Longing for Darkness: Tara and the Black Madonna by China Galland. China's comment is that this poem could have been written about Kali rather than the Mother of God, Mary.

Is there a recording of you reading it aloud. I would love to hear it.

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Krisztina Lazar's avatar

That book sounds right up my alley too actually. And no. I wish I would have recorded it at the opening. But I am planning on doing a video of me reading it for the YouTubes. We'll make sure it goes around when its live.

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Jeremy Hartley's avatar

So far I am really enjoying the book - only read the first 70 or so pages. It is kind a cross between a travel book and a spiritual quest. It reads a bit easier than some of the buddhist tomes I have been reading recently...

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Krisztina Lazar's avatar

Awesome. Thank you for the reco. You've gotta switch it up lol!

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Samuel Garfield's avatar

You express an idea here that I have literally been struggling to express to other people for years beautifully--that what makes divine experience divine (and worth pursuing) is its ineffability, its holographicity. Thank you for your clarity of thought and insight.

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Krisztina Lazar's avatar

Thank you Samuel. I really appreciate it

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Rhoney Stanley's avatar

kris, what is your email as I have written about Thunder Perfect Mind, led a group who read it and also other gnostic works of Mary Magdalene, and would like to talk to you. Mine is rhoney.stanley@gmail.com

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Tom Cheetham's avatar

this is wonderful. many thanks.

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Krisztina Lazar's avatar

Thank you so much

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Berkeley Alembic's avatar

I couldn't quite understand the meaning of China's comment as you quote, but almost without doubt the original poem was not written about Mary. In fact, nobody has the slightest clue who (or what?) it was written about, which is part of what makes this text so powerful. There are scholarly theories but no coherent identifications as far as I can tell. This poem, one of the most powerful paradoxical and visionary poems of the entire ancient Western corpus, is genuinely ANOMALOUS

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